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sglang safetensors qwen4_exp abliterated uncensored nvfp4 fp8 modelopt moe text-generation conversational arxiv:2406.11717

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README current version from Hugging Face


license: other
license_name: qwen
base_model: lovedheart/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-NVFP4-FP8
base_model_relation: quantized
pipeline_tag: text-generation
library_name: sglang
tags:

  • abliterated
  • uncensored
  • nvfp4
  • fp8
  • modelopt
  • sglang
  • moe

Qwen3.8-Flash-Next — Abliterated, NVFP4 experts + FP8_PB_WO dense

An abliterated build of Qwen3.8-Flash-Next in the modelopt MIXED_PRECISION format:
NVFP4 group-16 experts with FP8_PB_WO (128x128 block, weight-only) dense layers, and
the PLE n-gram table in FP8.

This combination had no abliterated build. Every published one is uniform NVFP4 or
compressed-tensors, both of which lose the block-scaled FP8 dense path — which on
sm120 is what the KV pool depends on. This exists to fill that gap.

It is a transplant, not a new abliteration. The refusal direction was recovered
from published weight deltas of an existing abliterated checkpoint and re-applied to
this quantization. See METHOD.md.

Attribution

base model Qwen/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next
quantization these weights are lovedheart/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-NVFP4-FP8
the abliteration itself windowsxp811203/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-Abliterated-NVFP4
PLE fp8 conversion (the shard r was recovered from) gorbatjovy/qwen3.8-flash-next-abliterated-NVFP4-plefp8
technique Arditi et al., Refusal in Language Models Is Mediated by a Single Direction

The credit for the ablation belongs upstream. What is new here is the transplant into
a different quantization, and the measurement that says it worked.

What was changed

W' = W - 1.5013 * r (r^T W) applied to 24,676 residual-writing tensors:

family count orientation
embed_tokens 1 dim 1
linear_attn.out_proj (GDN) 36 dim 0
self_attn.o_proj 13 dim 0
mlp.shared_expert.down_proj 49 dim 0
mlp.experts.*.down_proj 24,576 dim 0
ple.value_proj 1 dim 0

alpha = 1.5013 was measured from the reference build (sd 0.0004 across 12
tensors), not assumed — it is a deliberate over-projection, not a plain rank-1
projection. Attention q/k/v, expert gate_proj/up_proj, norms and the vision
tower are untouched.

Evaluation

GSM8K, 1319 problems, temperature 0.6, top_p 0.95, max_tokens 8192, identical
harness and settings for both:

GSM8K stop rate error rate
base (lovedheart NVFP4+FP8) 0.9666 0.9886 0.0000
this build 0.9666 0.9864 0.0000

No measurable capability cost. Refusal behaviour does change on prompts the base
declines. Multimodal transcription is unchanged (same image-token count, same output
structure, 4.4 s vs 4.5 s).

Serving

Built and tested on SGLang, one RTX PRO 6000 Blackwell (sm120, 96 GB):

--quantization modelopt --kv-cache-dtype fp8_e4m3 --ple-offload-embedding
--mem-fraction-static 0.975 --context-length 850000
--speculative-algorithm NEXTN --speculative-num-steps 3

Serving profile is identical to the unmodified quantization: KV pool 853,056 tokens,
850k context, 4.07 GB free VRAM. --ple-offload-embedding is required — the n-gram
table is ~47.7 GiB and lives in host RAM.

Note reasoning_effort matters a lot on this model. Without it, it will spend an
entire token budget thinking and return an empty response; "reasoning_effort": "medium" in chat_template_kwargs fixes it.

Caveats

  • The quality of the ablation is inherited from the upstream build.
  • Single-direction abliteration is contested — see
    There Is More to Refusal in LLMs than a Single Direction.
  • GSM8K is one benchmark. Unchanged arithmetic does not prove unchanged everything.
  • Safety alignment has been substantially removed. It will answer things the original
    refuses. Released for research and for local use on hardware you own.

License follows the base model (other / Qwen terms), as with every checkpoint in the
chain above.

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