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ZiRoX112 Qwen 27B GGUF second-order 262K ctx
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Primary method

Uncensored (method unknown)

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Why this label 3 signals
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  • 'uncensored' in name/tags but no 'abliterated' marker
  • method not identifiable from author declaration alone
  • may be DPO fine-tune, prompt engineering, or unknown technique
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Languages
en it zh
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gguf qwen3.8 quantization imatrix edit-preservation text-generation en it zh base_model:orcarouter/Qwen3.8-27B-Uncensored base_model:quantized:orcarouter/Qwen3.8-27B-Uncensored endpoints_compatible

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Total size
35.8 GB
Files
6
Quantizations
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Registered
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Last updated on HF
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Files by quantization

Auxiliary files 6 files 35.8 GB
Qwen3.8-27B-Uncensored-Q38mix-v6.gguf 18.0 GB 0e6f25cf download
Qwen3.8-27B-Uncensored-Q38mix-v8-19.1G.gguf 17.8 GB 85387ffa download
imatrix.gguf 13.0 MB 2bffc390 download
README.md 6.26 KB 57911e09 download
provenance.json 2.19 KB d53b4088 download
.gitattributes 1.68 KB 37a94fbe download

README current version from Hugging Face


base_model: orcarouter/Qwen3.8-27B-Uncensored
library_name: gguf
pipeline_tag: text-generation
tags:

  • gguf
  • qwen3.8
  • quantization
  • imatrix
  • edit-preservation
    language: [en, it, zh]

Qwen3.8-27B-Uncensored — Q38mix v6 (edit-preservation-aware GGUF)

A reasoned GGUF quantization of orcarouter/Qwen3.8-27B-Uncensored
(the rank-1 "OrcaRouter" abliterated Qwen3.8-27B, a hybrid gated-delta-net + attention architecture with a
native MTP head). 19.32 GB, 5.655 bpw. Fits an RTX 5090 (32 GB) with headroom for KV cache / long context.

What makes it different: to our knowledge it is the first GGUF quant of this model that is aware of the
abliteration edit itself
and protects the tensors carrying it, while being tuned per-tensor against a true
BF16 reference
(not a Q8 proxy).

Method (every choice measured)

  1. Custom importance matrix calibrated on this model: 861k tokens (agentic-coding + code + chat + Italian
    • refusal-contrast), Qwen3 chat-template rendered, 125 chunks @ ctx 2048 with --process-output.
  2. Per-tensor base allocation = Unsloth Dynamic V3 (extracted from
    unsloth/Qwen3.8-27B-GGUF UD-Q4_K_XL) — full credit to
    Unsloth for the base map.
  3. Survival-guided edit protection: the 131 tensors carrying the shared rank-1 abliteration direction
    (recovered first-hand, cosine 0.99999 across layers) are protected.
  4. Measured reallocation: all ffn_down → Q6_K, attn_output → Q6_K, token_embd → Q6_K, driven by a
    ΔKL-attribution sweep and validated against a BF16 reference. ssm_alpha/beta kept Q8_0; conv1d/dt/a and
    norms F32 (GDN control path, incompressible). lm_head/output not inflated (least sensitive — placebo).

Benchmarks — against a BF16 reference (the bias-free objective)

KL divergence vs the true Uncensored BF16 (held-out multi-domain corpus, 40×512 chunks). Reference is BF16, so
the comparison does not favour any build's Q8-kept tensors.

quant size mean KL ↓ same-top-1 ↑ 99% KL tail ↓ max KL ↓
Q38mix v6 (this) 19.32 GB 0.008372 96.13 % 0.0902 3.40
OrcaRouter Q5_K_M (publisher's default) 19.54 GB 0.009791 96.03 % 0.1082 4.21
Unsloth-method + edit-protection (udprotected) 19.09 GB 0.008773 96.17 % 0.0933 3.57

Honest reading:

  • Beats the publisher's own OrcaRouter Q5_K_M on every measured axis — mean KL −14.5 %, tails −17 %/−19 %,
    and it is smaller. This is a fair BF16-referenced comparison.
  • On par with the Unsloth method (udprotected): v6 edges mean KL and tails but is +0.23 GB larger, and
    udprotected wins same-top-1 by 0.04 pp (noise). At equal size the two are a tie. Do not read this as
    "beats Unsloth" — the differentiator over the Unsloth method is the edit protection, not the allocation.
  • Edit-survival (structural preservation of the abliteration direction): min ≈ 0.95, on par with OrcaRouter Q5
    and far above an unprotected Unsloth-style quant (~0.86).

Trajectory fidelity (antirez ds4: greedy-LCP vs the Q8 reference's own greedy path, n=46)

quant greedy-LCP ↑ exact-match ↑
OrcaRouter Q5_K_M 31.30 22
Q38mix v6 (this) 31.22 23
Unsloth-method (udpure) 30.61 22

v6 is co-leader on greedy-LCP (tied with OrcaRouter Q5 within noise) and best on exact-match, ahead of
the Unsloth method — i.e. it is strong on both the KL metric and the trajectory metric, which usually trade
off. (n=46; the ~0.6-LCP gaps are within the sign-test noise band — read as "competitive/co-leading", not
"decisively best".)

Honest caveats (read before relying on this)

  • Reference is BF16 for the table above (the correct objective). An earlier Q8-referenced number for this
    family was self-favourable and is not used here.
  • Behavioural refusal-rate (measured, full-window): on 25 AdvBench harmful + 15 Alpaca benign prompts,
    n_predict=640 with the refusal judged on the answer after </think> (24/25 harmful outputs closed the
    think block inside the window — a valid measurement, not the 128-token truncation the earlier bench suffered):
    harmful-refusal 0.0, benign-refusal 0.067 — identical to the Q8 baseline. The abliteration is preserved
    behaviourally; OrcaRouter Q5, by contrast, restored refusals (0.017 / 0.100).
  • Calibration/eval overlap: ~43 % of the KL-eval tokens share a source distribution with the calibration
    corpus (documents disjoint, distribution not) — this favours any build using this imatrix over externally-built
    quants. The numbers are honest but this is disclosed.
  • Built from the Q8_0 source with --allow-requantize (a BF16-sourced rebuild is in progress and will supersede
    this if measurably better).

Provenance

  • GGUF sha256: 0e6f25cf9d203e0c75b9cb814e47346edc0d80b293d6a151287049da22ad4e04
  • Engine: llama.cpp b10470 · quantized_from: Uncensored Q8_0 (--allow-requantize)
  • Calibration: 861,596 tokens, 7 buckets · imatrix: 125 chunks @ ctx 2048, --process-output
  • Full per-tensor map, imatrix, and calibration recipe: see provenance.json and the accompanying files.

Variants in this repo

  • …Q38mix-v6.gguf (19.32 GB) — the flagship above (recommended).
  • …Q38mix-v8-19.1G.gguf (19.14 GB, 5.60 bpw) — a slightly smaller variant (ffn_gate/up → IQ4_XS). BF16-ref
    KL 0.008593, same-top-1 96.35 % (best of the set), tail (kld99) 0.098 — i.e. ≈v6 quality within noise,
    −0.18 GB
    , with only the tail marginally worse. This is the mainline quality-per-byte frontier: a
    size-matched reallocation (v6b) does not beat v6, and a real ~2 GB reduction is only reachable with the
    ik_llama.cpp trellis fork (not servable in mainline llama.cpp / ollama / LM Studio). Full study:
    the project's docs/quantization/ and research/quant-obsessive/10-shrink-v6-executable.md.

Intended use

A high-fidelity local GGUF of an existing public abliterated model, for single-user coding-agent workloads on a
24–32 GB consumer GPU. It is a quantization of a model that is already publicly available; it adds no capability
beyond faithfully preserving that model at smaller size.

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