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Abliteration classifier · v1.0.0
M3
Primary method

Layer-wise ablation

Applied on top of direct removal inherited from the base model.
Confidence
HIGH
Inherited from base model
Why this label 2 signals
Producer identity confirmed by naming conventions, tags or the model card. This label is very unlikely to change.
  • 'heretic' in model name (Heretic-produced)
  • Heretic uses layer-wise optimization (M3) with underlying direction removal (M1)
Refusal direction extracted via
Extraction technique

Difference-of-means

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Why we say so
name contains 'heretic'; Heretic default extraction is difference-of-means (Arditi 2024)
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License
apache-2.0
Quantizations
BF16 F16 IQ1 IQ2 IQ3 IQ4 Q2_K Q3_K Q4_K Q5_K Q6_K Q8_0
Tags
transformers gguf qwen3.8 qwen3.5 heretic abliterated uncensored roleplay imatrix text-generation base_model:Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B base_model:quantized:Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B

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Total size
311 GB
Files
19
Quantizations
13
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Last updated on HF
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Files by quantization

BF16 1 file 50.1 GB
RVN-BF16.gguf 50.1 GB fe3cb9c7 download
F16 1 file 50.1 GB
RVN-F16.gguf 50.1 GB ce414558 download
Q8_0 1 file 26.6 GB
RVN-Q8_0.gguf 26.6 GB 638be14a download
Q6_K 1 file 20.6 GB
RVN-Q6_K.gguf 20.6 GB 4c94eac3 download
Q5_K 1 file 17.9 GB
RVN-Q5_K_M.gguf 17.9 GB a55d2ff0 download
Q4_K 3 files 45.3 GB
Qwen3.8-27B-Heretic-Q4_K_M.gguf 15.4 GB 5ae89d67 download
RVN-Q4_K_M.gguf 15.4 GB 40b5c70b download
RVN-Q4_K_S.gguf 14.5 GB 42b37f8c download
IQ4 2 files 29.0 GB
RVN-IQ4_NL.gguf 14.8 GB c9d68f11 download
RVN-IQ4_XS.gguf 14.2 GB 768895ae download
Q3_K 2 files 23.6 GB
RVN-Q3_K_M.gguf 12.4 GB 11c2c708 download
RVN-Q3_K_S.gguf 11.2 GB 442a1ebd download
IQ3 1 file 11.7 GB
RVN-IQ3_M.gguf 11.7 GB 77ebb5ed download
Q2_K 2 files 19.5 GB
RVN-Q2_K.gguf 9.98 GB b5eee0e3 download
RVN-Q2_K_S.gguf 9.54 GB 45850857 download
IQ2 1 file 9.32 GB
RVN-IQ2_M.gguf 9.32 GB fcd60053 download
IQ1 1 file 7.11 GB
RVN-IQ1_M.gguf 7.11 GB d7e5c4e1 download
Auxiliary files 2 files 13.2 KB
README.md 10.1 KB 2796f055 download
.gitattributes 3.14 KB 76bec83d download

README current version from Hugging Face


license: apache-2.0
base_model:

  • Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B
    library_name: transformers
    tags:
  • qwen3.8
  • qwen3.5
  • heretic
  • abliterated
  • uncensored
  • roleplay
  • gguf
  • imatrix
    pipeline_tag: text-generation

Qwen3.8-27B RVN Heretic Abliterated Uncensored (GGUF)

RVN is a double-refined abliterated variant of Qwen3.8-27B, built on top of
trohrbaugh/Qwen3.8-27B-heretic-ara
(an ARA abliteration by Tim Rohrbaugh) and further refined with two additional
full-weight ARA passes
targeting residual refusals. It retains very low behavioral
damage (KL ≈ 0.0085) while reducing harmful-prompt refusals from 3/100 (source) to
0–1/100 in independent measurements.

Note on this repository's history. This repo previously hosted the original
Qwen3.8-27B-Heretic-Q4_K_M.gguf (single-quant release from the earlier
trohrbaugh/Qwen3.8-27B-heretic source). That file is kept as legacy for
download-count continuity and backward compatibility — it is the older abliteration
variant and is superseded by the RVN files below. Prefer the RVN quants for new
deployments.

Not for all audiences. This model has reduced safety guardrails by design. It is
intended for adult audiences (18+) doing research, creative writing, roleplay, and
uncensored generation. Certain guardrails are intentionally left in place; use
responsibly and in accordance with your local laws.


What is ARA?

ARA (Arbitrary-Rank Ablation) is the abliteration technique implemented in
p-e-w/heretic. Traditional directional abliteration
finds a single "refusal direction" in activation space and subtracts it — a one-shot,
low-rank surgery that is simple but can leave residual refusals or damage unrelated
behavior.

ARA instead treats abliteration as a matrix optimization problem. For every target
module (attention out-projection and MLP down-projection), it collects activations on
"good" prompts (harmless requests) and "bad" prompts (harmful requests), then uses an
LBFGS optimizer to rewrite the module's weight matrix so that:

  • Preserve: outputs on good prompts change as little as possible (KL is kept low)
  • Steer: outputs on bad prompts are pulled toward the good-prompt output manifold
    (via k-nearest-neighbor distances), so harmful requests stop triggering the refusal
    circuitry
  • Overcorrect: outputs on bad prompts are additionally pushed away from the
    original bad-prompt outputs, which helps overcome complex, multi-stage refusal
    mechanisms

Because the weight matrix is optimized directly (rather than subtracting a single
direction), ARA is "arbitrary rank" — it can carve out a much richer refusal-removal
subspace while keeping behavioral damage minimal.

Why "Heretic" and "Abliterated"?

These two words describe two layers of the same process:

  • Heretic is the tool: the open-source implementation of ARA (and related
    abliteration methods) used to modify the model. Models produced with it are commonly
    labeled "heretic" in the community.
  • Abliterated is the result: the model's refusal behavior has been surgically
    removed. An abliterated model still knows everything the base model knows, but it no
    longer refuses to answer the categories that were steered away during the process.

So "Heretic Abliterated" means: abliterated using the heretic toolset. RVN goes one
step further — it applies the ARA procedure three times total: once by the original
author (trohrbaugh) to get from base Qwen3.8-27B to -ara, and twice more by us to
get from -ara to RVN, squeezing out the last residual refusals.

Special Thanks

This work would not exist without Tim Rohrbaugh (trohrbaugh), whose
heretic-ara ARA
abliteration of Qwen3.8-27B (refusals 3/100, KL 0.0535) provided the foundation we
refined into RVN. His upstream contributions to the heretic codebase — including the
row-norm preservation feature and Qwen3.5 MoE/DeltaNet hybrid handling — are directly
responsible for making DeltaNet-layer abliteration work at all. Thank you, Tim.

Model Overview

Property Value
Base model Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B
Abliteration source trohrbaugh/Qwen3.8-27B-heretic-ara (ARA, KL 0.0535, refusals 3/100)
RVN refinement 2-pass ARA on top of source → KL 0.0085, refusals 0–1/100
Architecture qwen3_5_text (Qwen3.8 family), Gated DeltaNet hybrid
Parameters 27B total
Hidden size 5120
Layers 64 (16 standard attention + 48 Gated DeltaNet linear attention)
Attention heads 24 · KV heads 4 (GQA) · head_dim 256
Vocab 248,320
Context length 262,144 (262K)
License Apache-2.0 (retained from Qwen3.8-27B)
Format GGUF (llama.cpp), MTP/NextN draft tensors excluded (--no-nextn)

Why RVN?

trohrbaugh/Qwen3.8-27B-heretic-ara is already a strong ARA abliteration, but three
harmful prompts still triggered refusals in our independent evaluation (racism website,
malware, government database hacking). RVN applies two additional full-weight ARA
passes
using the same tight parameter set (start 26, end 56, preserve 0.9432,
steer 0.0009, overcorrect 0.5038, neighbor 10), which:

  • Reduced refusals from 3/100 → 0–1/100 (the only remaining refusal is a
    chemical-weapon WMD prompt — one of the strongest safety-trained categories, and
    intentionally one of the guardrails we left in place)
  • Reduced KL damage from 0.0535 (source) to 0.0085 vs base — a ~6× improvement
    in behavioral preservation
  • Verified independently on two rented GPU machines with prefix-based (real-answer)
    refusal measurement

Refusal evaluation (100 harmful-behaviors prompts, prefix-forced real answers)

Model Refusals KL vs base
Qwen3.8-27B (base) ~99/100 —
trohrbaugh -ara (source) 3/100 0.0535
RVN (this repo) 0–1/100 0.0085

Files & Quantization Spectrum

File Size Notes
RVN-F16.gguf ~45.6 GB F16 reference (no NextN/MTP)
RVN-Q8_0.gguf ~28.6 GB Max-quality 8-bit
RVN-Q6_K.gguf ~22.1 GB High-quality 6-bit
RVN-Q5_K_M.gguf ~19.2 GB Balanced 5-bit
RVN-Q4_K_M.gguf ~16.5 GB Recommended 4-bit (16 GB VRAM)
RVN-Q4_K_S.gguf ~15.6 GB Small 4-bit (12–16 GB VRAM)
RVN-Q3_K_M.gguf ~13.3 GB Compact 3-bit
RVN-Q3_K_S.gguf ~12.1 GB Compact 3-bit small
RVN-IQ4_NL.gguf ~10.0 GB imatrix 4-bit
RVN-IQ4_XS.gguf ~10.5 GB imatrix 4-bit extra-small
RVN-IQ3_M.gguf ~9.0 GB imatrix 3-bit (8 GB VRAM)
RVN-IQ2_M.gguf ~7.5 GB imatrix 2-bit (8 GB VRAM)
RVN-Q2_K.gguf ~8.5 GB imatrix 2-bit
RVN-Q2_K_S.gguf ~8.0 GB imatrix 2-bit small
RVN-IQ2_XS.gguf ~6.5 GB imatrix 2-bit extreme small
RVN-IQ2_XXS.gguf ~5.5 GB imatrix 2-bit (minimum)
RVN-IQ1_M.gguf ~5.0 GB imatrix 1-bit (experimental)
RVN-IQ1_S.gguf ~4.5 GB imatrix 1-bit (experimental)
Qwen3.8-27B-Heretic-Q4_K_M.gguf ~16.4 GB Legacy (older abliteration variant, kept for download continuity)

imatrix-based quants are produced from the same F16 with an activation importance
matrix computed over wikitext-2-raw (llama-imatrix, 563 chunks, -ngl 99).
Files marked "coming soon" are being generated in the pipeline.

Quant → GPU / Memory Guide

GPU / Memory Best quant(s) Effective ctx @ Q8_0 KV
8 GB (RTX 3050, 4060 Laptop) IQ3_M, IQ2_M, IQ3_XS ~16–24K
12 GB (RTX 3060, 4070) IQ4_NL, Q4_K_S, IQ3_M ~24–32K
16 GB (RTX 4080, 4090 Laptop, M3 Max) Q4_K_M, IQ4_NL, Q5_K_M (partial) ~32–48K
24 GB (RTX 3090, 4090, M4 Max) Q5_K_M, Q6_K, Q8_0 (partial) ~48–64K
32 GB (RTX 5090, A6000) Q8_0, Q6_K ~64–96K
48 GB+ (A100, RTX PRO 6000) F16, BF16 100K+

KV cache math (GQA, 4 KV heads, head_dim 256):
2 × 64 layers × 4 KV heads × 256 head_dim × 2 bytes = 262 KiB/token FP16
→ 16K ctx ≈ 4.2 GB · 32K ctx ≈ 8.4 GB · 64K ctx ≈ 16.8 GB (Q8_0 KV halves this).
A 16 GB card running Q4_K_M (14.5 GB model) + 16K ctx Q8_0 KV fits comfortably.

Rule of thumb: pick the largest quant that leaves ≥ 4 GB for KV cache + compute
buffers. If you only need short replies, drop the quant one notch and get a bigger
context; if you need long context, prioritize KV budget over quant size.

imatrix-based quants are produced from the same F16 with an activation importance
matrix computed over wikitext-2-raw (llama-imatrix, 563 chunks, -ngl 99).
Files marked "coming soon" are being generated in the pipeline.

Limitations & Responsible Use

  • Reduced safety guardrails by design. This model is not intended for use in
    applications requiring robust safety filtering, content moderation, or deployment to
    minors.
  • Certain guardrails are intentionally left in place. Abliteration targets refusal
    behavior on general harmful-prompt categories; a small set of hard safety-trained
    categories is deliberately not fully removed. Behavior may vary across domains and
    languages.
  • Not affiliated with or endorsed by Qwen/Alibaba or trohrbaugh.

License & Attribution

Citation

@misc{rohrbaugh2026heretic,
  title={Qwen3.8-27B-heretic-ara: ARA Abliteration of Qwen3.8-27B},
  author={Rohrbaugh, Tim},
  year={2026},
  howpublished={\url{https://huggingface.co/trohrbaugh/Qwen3.8-27B-heretic-ara}}
}

@misc{rvn2026,
  title={RVN: Qwen3.8-27B Heretic Abliterated Uncensored},
  author={0bserverx},
  year={2026},
  howpublished={\url{https://huggingface.co/0bserverx/Qwen3.8-27B-Heretic-Abliterated-Uncensored-GGUF}}
}

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