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jialinyyzz Qwen 27B multimodal
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apache-2.0
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mlx safetensors qwen3_5 abliterated uncensored heretic vision-language image-text-to-text conversational en base_model:Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B base_model:quantized:Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B

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tokenizer.json 19.1 MB 06b95093 download
vocab.json 6.41 MB 0aa0ce06 download
model.safetensors.index.json 213 KB 05a3a3a1 download
chat_template.jinja 8.74 KB c0c686f9 download
README.md 5.12 KB d725dbb5 download
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processor_config.json 991 B 8f29fe38 download
abliteration_info.json 625 B 923ff07e download
preprocessor_config.json 390 B 2ea84a43 download
video_preprocessor_config.json 385 B 3ba673a5 download
generation_config.json 214 B 0bc3addd download

README current version from Hugging Face


license: apache-2.0
base_model: Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B
language: en
library_name: mlx
pipeline_tag: image-text-to-text
tags:

  • mlx
  • qwen3_5
  • abliterated
  • uncensored
  • heretic
  • vision-language

Qwen3.8-27B abliterated — MLX 4-bit

An abliterated (decensored) conversion of Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B
to Apple MLX (4-bit), with the vision tower preserved. Refusal behavior has been suppressed via
directional ablation; the model's built-in safety guardrails are largely removed.

⚠️ Experimental / research use only. This model will attempt to answer requests that the
original model would refuse. It ships without the base model's safety behavior. You are
responsible for how you use it and for complying with the base model's Apache-2.0 license and
applicable law.

What this is

  • Base: Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B (hybrid Gated-DeltaNet + attention VLM; 64 text layers + 27-layer vision tower)
  • Method: Heretic MPOA (projected abliteration), selected from a
    300-trial Optuna search (variant wide-177)
  • Format: MLX affine 4-bit (group size 64), 4.695 bits/weight, vision tower kept (~15 GB on disk,
    ~19 GB peak RAM at generation)
  • One file, two uses: runs under mlx-vlm (image/video understanding) and under mlx-dspark
    (text + DSpark speculative decoding). Vision tensors (333 keys) are on disk; the text/DSpark path
    ignores them at load.

Abliteration recipe (wide-177)

parameter value
refusal direction single direction from layer ≈28 (direction_index 28.46)
attn.o_proj gentle: 0.83→0.64, layers 6–63 (attention pathway barely touched)
mlp.down_proj strong & uniform: 1.57→1.52, all 64 layers
KL divergence (orig ‖ abliterated) 0.056

Refusals are removed mainly through the MLP pathway across every layer while the attention
pathway is left nearly intact
— which is what preserves reasoning while suppressing refusals.

Refusal reduction

Heretic keyword-refusal scorer on mlabonne/harmful_behaviors test[:100]:

refusals / 100
base model 98
this model (w177) 11

This is an automated keyword metric with known false positives (a compliant answer containing
"illegal"/"harmful" is scored as a refusal) and false negatives (a refusal phrased without those
words is missed). Treat it as an indicator, not ground truth.

Capability evaluation

Original vs. this abliteration (lm-eval-harness loglikelihood; GSM8K generative CoT). Measured on the
bf16 master; the 4-bit quantization adds its own small, separate quantization error on top.

benchmark original w177 (bf16) Δ
ARC-Challenge 0.570 0.567 −0.003
HellaSwag 0.750 0.750 0.000
Winogrande 0.753 0.770 +0.017
OpenBookQA 0.477 0.470 −0.007
GSM8K (CoT) 0.76 0.78 +0.02

No measurable capability loss from abliteration on these five benchmarks (deltas within ~±0.03
sampling noise). This is not a claim of "lossless": not evaluated — code, agentic/tool-use,
GPQA, long-context, multilingual, actual safety behavior; and 4-bit quantization itself trades some
quality for size/speed. For maximum fidelity use the 8-bit variant.

Performance (Apple M5 Max, 128 GB)

Median of 3 trials, mlx-dspark benchmark, across chat/code/math prompts. ~19 GB peak RAM.

config tok/s speedup
baseline 32.0 —
DSpark (--caps auto) 36.0 1.12×

The 4-bit model is already fast and less memory-bandwidth-bound, so DSpark's gain is modest
(~1.25× on code/math, slightly slower on chat). This variant is the fastest in absolute terms —
about 1.3–1.8× the 8-bit throughput — at a small quality cost vs. 8-bit. Use --mode dspark
(cap=auto) for code/math; for chat, baseline is about as fast. DSpark auto-resolves its drafter
(RadixArk/Qwen3.8-27B-DSpark) from the basename — no --drafter flag needed.

Usage

DSpark speculative decoding needs a second weight — the ~1.36B drafter. mlx-dspark
auto-downloads it from RadixArk/Qwen3.8-27B-DSpark (no manual assembly), so the simple command
just works:

pip install mlx-dspark
mlx-dspark generate --model ./Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-MLX-4bit --mode dspark \
  --prompt "..." --max-new-tokens 512

Fully self-contained (no upstream dependency) — point at the bundled drafter mirror
Qwen3.8-27B-DSpark-drafter:

mlx-dspark generate --model ./Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-MLX-4bit \
  --drafter ./Qwen3.8-27B-DSpark-drafter --mode dspark --prompt "..."

Image / video (vision tower preserved, no drafter needed):

pip install mlx-vlm
python -m mlx_vlm generate --model ./Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-MLX-4bit \
  --image photo.jpg --prompt "Describe this image."

Provenance & license

  • Derived from Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B under Apache-2.0; this derivative inherits Apache-2.0.
  • Abliteration performed with Heretic (AGPL-3.0 tool; does not affect the model license).
  • No additional training; weights edited by directional ablation only.

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