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License
apache-2.0
Languages
en zh th
Quantizations
F16 IQ2 IQ3 IQ4 Q4_K Q6_K Q8_0
Tags
gguf qwen3_5 abliterated uncensored llama.cpp mtp multi-token-prediction image-text-to-text text-generation en zh th

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240 GB
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Last updated on HF
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Files by quantization

F16 1 file 50.9 GB
Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-mtp-f16.gguf 50.9 GB c2fb4779 download
Q8_0 1 file 27.1 GB
Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-mtp-Q8_0.gguf 27.1 GB c6573466 download
Q6_K 1 file 20.9 GB
Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-mtp-Q6_K.gguf 20.9 GB 1a47517e download
Q4_K 2 files 32.2 GB
Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-mtp-Q4_K_M-mixed.gguf 16.5 GB 3b39a385 download
Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-mtp-Q4_K_M.gguf 15.7 GB e4bb3f7e download
IQ4 1 file 14.9 GB
Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-mtp-IQ4_NL.gguf 14.9 GB 62d6d5e3 download
IQ3 2 files 22.3 GB
Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-mtp-IQ3_M.gguf 11.9 GB 31454b7d download
Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-IQ3_XXS.gguf 10.4 GB 86a37ba2 download
IQ2 1 file 9.32 GB
Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-IQ2_M.gguf 9.32 GB 7c39ac49 download
mmproj 1 file 888 MB
mmproj-Qwen3.8-27B-GGUF.gguf 888 MB 83ee4f4f download
Auxiliary files 8 files 62.6 GB
Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-mtp-Q6_K-mixed.gguf 21.5 GB 01c8fd1c download
Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-mtp-IQ4_NL-mixed.gguf 15.8 GB 1860bff2 download
Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-IQ3_M-custom.gguf 13.5 GB e1637efa download
Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-IQ2_M-custom.gguf 11.8 GB f50a63e5 download
Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-imatrix-cpu.gguf 13.0 MB a3d1fa23 download
Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-imatrix.dat 13.0 MB a3d1fa23 download
README.md 13.0 KB 1bfdd29b download
.gitattributes 2.94 KB ab2ae34a download

README current version from Hugging Face


license: apache-2.0
base_model: hotdogs/Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated
pipeline_tag: text-generation
library_name: gguf
tags:

  • qwen3_5
  • abliterated
  • uncensored
  • gguf
  • llama.cpp
  • mtp
  • multi-token-prediction
  • image-text-to-text
    language:
  • en
  • zh
  • th

Qwen3.8-27B-Abliterated (GGUF, MTP-capable)

GGUF quantization of hotdogs/Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated — the training-free abliterated (refusal-removed) build of Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B — converted for llama.cpp with the MTP (Multi-Token Prediction) head preserved.

Status: testing / development. This is an early GGUF upload for evaluation. It has not yet been calibrated with an imatrix — the low-bit Q4_K_M quality is expected to improve once an imatrix is added (see Roadmap). Feedback welcome.


deepseek-harness

mkdir -p data

docker run -d \
  --name deepseek \
  -p 2222:22 \
  -p 3080:8080 \
  -e SSH_PASSWORD=your-password \
  -e DSH_USER=root \
  -e DSH_PASSWORD=your-password \
  -v $(pwd)/data:/root/ \
  --restart unless-stopped \
  nutboy02/deepseek-harness:latest

Latest bug fixes as of 2026-08-16

Quantized "mixed" builds — quality vs f16

These -mixed quants use a hybrid precision recipe to get closer to the
f16 reference: the token-embedding and all output tensors are kept at q8_0
while the rest of the network is quantized to the base level, and they are
built with an imatrix (CPU calibration) — Q4_K_M-mixed and Q6_K-mixed.

Measured KL divergence vs the f16 reference (full-vocab, first-token
distribution, 8 neutral prompts, CPU): a lower value = closer to f16.

quant size base dtype embedding/output KL vs f16 closeness
Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-mtp-f16.gguf 54.7 GB bf16 bf16 0 (reference) —
Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-mtp-Q6_K-mixed.gguf 22.4 GB Q6_K q8_0 0.0017 best quant
Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-mtp-Q4_K_M-mixed.gguf 17.8 GB Q4_K_M q8_0 0.0042 2.5× f16 than Q6_K
Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-mtp-IQ4_NL-mixed.gguf 16.0 GB IQ4_NL q8_0 0.0083 smallest of the set

All four are very close to f16 (KL < 0.01). Q6_K-mixed (KL 0.0017) is the
closest to f16 (~2.5× better than Q4_K_M-mixed's 0.0042, ~5× better than
IQ4_NL-mixed's 0.0083)
— the higher base dtype plus the q8_0 embedding/output
keep it near-lossless, at roughly half the f16 size. IQ4_NL-mixed is the
smallest (16 GB) but drifts the most from f16 of the three; it is still a good
small-footprint option.

How they were built (from ~/llamacpp/llama.cpp)

cd ~/llamacpp/llama.cpp

# Q4_K_M-mixed: q8_0 embedding + outputs, imatrix-calibrated
./build/bin/llama-quantize --imatrix ./Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-imatrix-cpu.gguf \
  --output-tensor-type q8_0 --token-embedding-type q8_0 \
  ./Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-mtp-f16.gguf \
  ./Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-mtp-Q4_K_M-mixed.gguf Q4_K_M

# Q6_K-mixed: q8_0 embedding + outputs, imatrix-calibrated
./build/bin/llama-quantize --imatrix ./Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-imatrix-cpu.gguf \
  --output-tensor-type q8_0 --token-embedding-type q8_0 \
  ./Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-mtp-f16.gguf \
  ./Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-mtp-Q6_K-mixed.gguf Q6_K

# IQ4_NL-mixed: q8_0 embedding + outputs, imatrix-calibrated
./build/bin/llama-quantize --imatrix ./Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-imatrix-cpu.gguf \
  --output-tensor-type q8_0 --token-embedding-type q8_0 \
  ./Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-mtp-f16.gguf \
  ./Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-mtp-IQ4_NL-mixed.gguf IQ4_NL

Both carry the MTP head (quantized from the -mtp-f16 source), so
--spec-type draft-mtp works with them.


Custom IQ quants (no MTP head)

These IQ2_M-custom / IQ3_M-custom builds use a custom layer-precision
recipe
: the embedding and output tensors are q8_0, the first 4 layers
(blk.0-3) and last 4 layers (blk.60-63) plus attn_v/attn_output are
kept at a higher precision
(q4_K for IQ2, q5_K for IQ3) while the rest is
at the base IQ level. They were quantized from the -f16-nomtp source, so
they carry NO MTP head — do NOT use --spec-type draft-mtp with them.

file size base boundary (blk.0-3/60-63, attn_v/output) KL vs f16 MTP
Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-IQ3_M-custom.gguf 14.0 GB IQ3_M q5_K 0.0157 ❌
Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-IQ2_M-custom.gguf 12.0 GB IQ2_M q4_K 0.0617 ❌

IQ3_M-custom (KL 0.0157) is usable but visibly drifts from f16 (~4× the
IQ4_NL-mixed 0.0083, ~9× the Q6_K-mixed 0.0017). IQ2_M-custom (KL 0.0617)
drifts further (~4× IQ3_M, ~15× Q4_K_M). IQ1_M is not recommended — it
tends to loop (KL 0.295, far from f16). Both custom quants are no-MTP, so
they save memory (no draft head) but give up self-speculative decoding.

How they were built (from ~/llamacpp/llama.cpp)

cd ~/llamacpp/llama.cpp

# IQ3_M-custom: q8_0 emb/output, boundary layers + attn_v/output at q5_K
./build/bin/llama-quantize \
  --imatrix ./Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-imatrix-cpu.gguf \
  --output-tensor-type q8_0 \
  --token-embedding-type q8_0 \
  --tensor-type "blk\.[0-3]\..*=q5_K" \
  --tensor-type "blk\.6[0-3]\..*=q5_K" \
  --tensor-type "attn_v=q5_K" \
  --tensor-type "attn_output=q5_K" \
  ./Qwen3.8-27B-Abliterated-f16-nomtp.gguf \
  ./Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-IQ3_M-custom.gguf \
  IQ3_M

# IQ2_M-custom: q8_0 emb/output, boundary layers + attn_v/output at q4_K
./build/bin/llama-quantize \
  --imatrix ./Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-imatrix-cpu.gguf \
  --output-tensor-type q8_0 \
  --token-embedding-type q8_0 \
  --tensor-type "blk\.[0-3]\..*=q4_K" \
  --tensor-type "blk\.6[0-3]\..*=q4_K" \
  --tensor-type "attn_v=q4_K" \
  --tensor-type "attn_output=q4_K" \
  ./Qwen3.8-27B-Abliterated-f16-nomtp.gguf \
  ./Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-IQ2_M-custom.gguf \
  IQ2_M

IQ1_M warning: an IQ1_M build was also measured (KL 0.295) but is not
recommended
— at 1-bit the model drifts far from f16 and tends to loop.
Stick with IQ3_M-custom (14 GB) or IQ2_M-custom (12 GB) as the smallest
usable options.


Files

File Size MTP Notes
Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-mtp-f16.gguf ~54.7 GB ✅ Full-precision reference. Highest quality; largest. Use for imatrix + as quant source.
Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-mtp-Q8_0.gguf ~29.0 GB ✅ HIGH quality/size.
Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-mtp-Q6_K.gguf ~22.4 GB ✅ Balanced quality/size. Recommended if you have the VRAM/RAM.
Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-mtp-Q4_K_M.gguf ~16.8 GB ✅ Smaller footprint. (Currently without imatrix — quality to improve.)
Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-mtp-IQ4_NL.gguf ~16.0 GB ✅ Smaller footprint. (with imatrix)
Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-mtp-IQ3_M.gguf ~12.8 GB ✅ Smallest MTP-enabled quant. (with imatrix)
Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-IQ3_XXS.gguf ~11.2 GB ❌ No MTP head — --spec-type draft-mtp NOT available.
Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-IQ2_M.gguf ~10.0 GB ❌ No MTP head — --spec-type draft-mtp NOT available.
mmproj-Qwen3.8-27B-GGUF.gguf ~931 MB — Multimodal projector — enables image understanding.
Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-imatrix.dat ~13.6 MB — imatrix calibration data (for llama-quantize --imatrix).

MTP note: only files with -mtp- in the filename carry the embedded MTP
head. IQ2_M and IQ3_XXS were quantized without the MTP head — do NOT
pass --spec-type draft-mtp with them (llama.cpp will error / fall back to
plain decoding). For the -mtp- files you can use self-speculative
decoding
in llama.cpp (--spec-type draft-mtp) for faster generation.


Quick start — llama.cpp

Recommended llama-server flags (used for testing this model):

llama-server -m Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-mtp-Q6_K.gguf \
  --spec-type draft-mtp \
  --spec-draft-n-max 2 \
  --ctx-size $((256*1024)) \
  --batch-size 8192 \
  --ubatch-size 1024 \
  --cache-type-k f16 \
  --cache-type-v f16 \
  --flash-attn on \
  --cont-batching \
  --temp 0.95 \
  --top-k 20 \
  --top-p 0.95 \
  --min-p 0.0 \
  --mlock \
  --no-mmap \
  --jinja -ngl 99

If loop try to use

  --repeat-penalty 1.03 \
  --repeat-last-n 256 \
  --dry-multiplier 0.5 \
  --dry-base 1.75 \
  --dry-allowed-length 5 \
  --dry-penalty-last-n -1 \
  --reverse-prompt "<|im_end|>" \
  --reverse-prompt "<|endoftext|>" \

Notes on the flags:

  • 256K context (--ctx-size $((256*1024))) with f16 KV cache — Qwen3.8
    natively supports a long context; budget your VRAM accordingly.
  • --spec-type draft-mtp enables MTP self-speculative decoding. Sweep
    --spec-draft-n-max (1–6) to find the fastest point on your hardware.
  • DRY sampler (dry-*) is a repetition suppressor — tune
    --dry-multiplier if output feels too constrained or too repetitive.
  • --chat-template-file chat_template.jinja — point this at the
    chat_template.jinja from the source repo
    (hotdogs/Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated)
    to guarantee the correct Qwen3.8 prompt format (thinking + vision tags).
  • --mlock --no-mmap pins weights in RAM (faster, but needs enough free
    RAM for the model).
  • --reverse-prompt on the Qwen EOS/stop tokens keeps multi-turn chat
    clean.

CLI one-shot:

llama-cli -m Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-mtp-Q4_K_M.gguf \
  --spec-type draft-mtp -ngl 99 -p "Explain how a lock cylinder works."

For image support, pass the projector:

llama-server -m Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-mtp-Q6_K.gguf \
  --mmproj mmproj-Qwen3.8-27B-GGUF.gguf \
  --spec-type draft-mtp -ngl 99 -c 32768

Which file should I use?

Use case Pick
Best quality (large VRAM/RAM, e.g. 48 GB+) f16
Best quality-per-GB (24 GB class) Q6_K
Smaller footprint (16 GB class) Q4_K_M
Image/video understanding add mmproj-Qwen3.8-27B-GGUF.gguf

llama-server -ngl 99 offloads all layers to GPU; lower -ngl to spill to
RAM if VRAM is tight.


About the source model

hotdogs/Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated is a training-free abliterated build of Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B (a dense 27B native vision-language model with hybrid full-attention + linear-attention architecture). Refusal behaviour is removed by a single forward-only rank-1 weight edit (W ← W − λ·r̂(r̂ᵀW)) that orthogonalizes the "refusal direction" r̂ out of the 131 residual-stream writers at λ = 1.2 (hidden-state index 46, non-thinking) — no fine-tuning, no data poisoning.

The vision tower and lm_head are byte-for-byte unchanged. These GGUFs were converted from the λ = 1.2 abliterated checkpoint (the current published base), so the refusal-removal edit is preserved through quantization.

Capability (A/B vs base, source model)

The GGUFs quantize the λ = 1.2 checkpoint, whose bf16 A/B benchmark against
Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B (identical lm-eval HF harness, same prompt/config) is:

benchmark base λ = 1.2 (bf16) Δ
MMLU (0-shot) 0.8388 0.8342 −0.005
GSM8K (5-shot, strict) 0.62 0.59 −0.03
ARC-Challenge (0-shot) 0.4433 0.4533 +0.010

Refusal (100-prompt heretic harness): 98/100 → 39/100; KL vs base 0.0001.
See the base model card for the full method and the weight-level r̂ check.

Disclaimer. The underlying model will not refuse. It is published for alignment and safety research — measuring what refusal training protects, red-teaming, and studying refusal-direction mechanics. You are responsible for your use of it and for complying with all applicable laws.


About MTP (Multi-Token Prediction)

Qwen3.8 uses an MTP head trained to predict the next several tokens in a
single forward pass. In GGUF this head can be kept and used for
self-speculative decoding: the model drafts N candidate tokens, verifies
them in one pass, and accepts the correct prefix — giving a decode speedup
with no loss of output quality.

Enable it in llama.cpp with --spec-type draft-mtp. Sweep
--spec-draft-n-max from 1–6 to find the fastest point on your hardware
(start with 2). Watch the server log for:

draft acceptance rate = 0.XX (N accepted / M generated)
statistics ... #acc tokens = N

Roadmap

  • Convert abliterated model to GGUF (MTP head preserved)
  • Build an imatrix calibration corpus (real usage / Thai-augmented)
  • Verify MTP acceptance rate on multiple hardware profiles

Reproduction / source

The exact build/quantize commands will be added here once the imatrix pass
is complete.


License

Apache-2.0 (inherited from the base model and its source).

README history 16 versions

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