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rAVEUK/Qwen3.8-27B-Uncensored

rAVEUK Qwen 27B multimodal
Abliteration classifier · v1.0.0
M1
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Difference-of-means

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apache-2.0
Languages
en zh
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transformers safetensors qwen3_5 image-text-to-text uncensored abliterated qwen3.8 mtp vision conversational en zh

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README current version from Hugging Face


license: apache-2.0
base_model: Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B
base_model_relation: finetune
pipeline_tag: image-text-to-text
library_name: transformers
language:

  • en
  • zh
    tags:
  • uncensored
  • abliterated
  • qwen3.8
  • mtp
  • vision

Qwen3.8-27B-Uncensored

Qwen3.8-27B with refusal behaviour
substantially reduced, not eliminated — see Measured behaviour for the numbers.
Capabilities, training data, and architecture are otherwise unchanged.

These are the bf16 safetensors. For local inference under llama.cpp, see
JonathanColetti/Qwen3.8-27B-Uncensored-GGUF, which ships imatrix quantizations with the
multi-token prediction head retained. Try it first in the
demo Space.

The MTP head is present and verified. Abliteration drops the mtp.* tensors: the
model is re-saved through transformers, which does not carry the MTP module, while
config.json still advertises mtp_num_hidden_layers. All 15 mtp.* tensors were
grafted back from the base checkpoint and the inventory was asserted against the source
before upload.

Method

  • Refusal directions removed with Heretic, which
    co-minimizes refusal count against KL divergence from the base model. No hand-written
    refusal-removal code, no fine-tuning, no additional training data.
  • Abliteration runs at bf16 (no 4-bit quantization); the resulting LoRA is merged into the
    bf16 base, so these weights are not a quantized round trip.
  • Only attn.o_proj and mlp.down_proj are modified, 64 modules each. The mtp.*
    tensors are copied verbatim from the base checkpoint after merging.
  • 200 optimization trials. The published checkpoint is one point on the resulting Pareto
    front, selected for the lowest refusal count; the full front is below.

Overview

Base Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B
Architecture Qwen3_5ForConditionalGeneration
Layers 64
Vocab 248320
MTP layers 1
Vision yes
Context 262144
Precision bf16

Usage

import torch
from transformers import AutoProcessor, AutoModelForImageTextToText

model_id = "JonathanColetti/Qwen3.8-27B-Uncensored"
processor = AutoProcessor.from_pretrained(model_id)
model = AutoModelForImageTextToText.from_pretrained(
    model_id, dtype=torch.bfloat16, device_map="auto")

messages = [{"role": "user", "content": [{"type": "text", "text": "Hello"}]}]
inputs = processor.apply_chat_template(
    messages, add_generation_prompt=True, tokenize=True,
    return_dict=True, return_tensors="pt").to(model.device)

out = model.generate(**inputs, max_new_tokens=512)
print(processor.decode(out[0], skip_special_tokens=True))

bf16 needs roughly 55 GB of VRAM. The chat template opens a <think> block by default;
pass enable_thinking=False to apply_chat_template for direct answers. Qwen's
recommended sampling is temperature=1.0, top_p=0.95, top_k=20.

Measured behaviour

Benchmarked against the unmodified base model on identical settings. The delta is the
figure that matters: it isolates what the weight edit cost.

Task Base Uncensored Δ
MMLU 83.4 83.3 -0.2
ARC-Challenge 58.9 57.7 -1.2
HellaSwag 82.8 82.9 +0.1
Winogrande 76.1 75.3 -0.8
Mean -0.5

0-shot via lm-evaluation-harness,
bf16, both models scored in the same session. Every delta is within or close to the
reported standard error (MMLU ±0.30, ARC ±1.44, HellaSwag ±0.38, Winogrande ±1.21), so
none is clearly separable from run-to-run noise.

These are 0-shot and are not comparable to Qwen's published scores, which use few-shot
prompting. They are directly comparable to each other, which is the point. Note also that
ARC-Challenge is low for a model at this MMLU — the base scores 58.9 under the same
settings, so that is format sensitivity in a reasoning-tuned model, not abliteration
damage.

What the benchmarks do not cover: no generative evaluation (GSM8K, HumanEval), no
math or code, no multilingual, and the harness loads the text stack only — nothing here
measures the vision tower or MTP speculative decoding.

Measurement Base model This model
Refusals (100 held-out harmful prompts) 98/100 12/100
KL divergence vs base (first-token) 0 0.1191

Search: 200 Heretic trials, 23 non-dominated points. The published model is the marked row.

refusals KL divergence
12/100 0.1191 ← published
13/100 0.1052
19/100 0.0722
23/100 0.0635
26/100 0.0507
27/100 0.0410
35/100 0.0406
36/100 0.0387
41/100 0.0366
44/100 0.0352
46/100 0.0334
48/100 0.0331
51/100 0.0321
52/100 0.0294
60/100 0.0290
76/100 0.0280
77/100 0.0247
83/100 0.0204
86/100 0.0193
91/100 0.0170
96/100 0.0146
97/100 0.0044
98/100 0.0004

How to read these

Refusal rate is the count of refusals over 100 held-out prompts from
mlabonne/harmful_behaviors
(test split) — explicitly harmful requests, not benign ones. So this number is not an
over-refusal rate: it does not tell you how often the model declines legitimate work. It
tells you how much of the original safety behaviour on harmful requests remains.

KL divergence is measured against the unmodified base model over first-token
distributions, and is the optimizer's proxy for "how much did we damage the model". Lower
is closer to base. It is a proxy, not a capability measurement — a low KL does not certify
that reasoning or coding ability survived, and nothing here does certify that.

The two trade off against each other. The published point minimizes refusals, which is the
most aggressive end of the front and also the highest divergence on it. Points with
noticeably lower KL are available at a few more refusals; the full search is archived in
heretic-study/ if you want to
re-export one.

Caveats that matter

  • Refusals were measured in non-thinking mode. This model's chat template opens a
    <think> block, so the evaluation closes it explicitly to score answers rather than
    reasoning traces. With thinking enabled the refusal rate may differ, in either direction.
  • The measurement is 100 prompts from one dataset. It generalizes to that distribution
    of harmful requests and no further. Refusal behaviour on other topics is uncharacterized.
  • Perplexity was measured on the GGUF conversions, not here — wikitext-2, f16 6.9358
    vs Q4_K_M 7.1557. It detects gross quantization damage, not capability loss.

Limitations

  • Refusals are reduced, not eliminated, and not redirected. This model attempts many
    requests the original declines, but a meaningful fraction are still refused.
  • This is the highest-divergence point on the front. Behaviour near the old refusal
    boundary is less stable than the base model.
  • Capability benchmarks show a 0.5-point mean drop vs base. No generative, math, code,
    or multilingual evaluation was run. See Measured behaviour.

Intended use

Local inference and research. Not intended for deployment to third parties without your
own safety layer.

License

Apache 2.0, inherited from Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B. The base model's license and acceptable use
policy still apply to your use of this derivative.

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