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apache-2.0
Languages
en zh
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transformers safetensors qwen3_5 image-text-to-text abliterated uncensored conversational qwen3.8 qwen text-generation en zh

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README current version from Hugging Face


license: apache-2.0
base_model: Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B
base_model_relation: finetune
pipeline_tag: image-text-to-text
library_name: transformers
tags:

  • qwen3_5
  • abliterated
  • uncensored
  • image-text-to-text
  • conversational
  • qwen3.8
  • qwen
  • text-generation
    language:
  • en
  • zh

Qwen3.8-27B-Abliterated

An abliterated (refusal-removed) build of Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B.

Refusal behaviour is removed by a training-free, forward-only weight edit: a single "refusal
direction" is identified in the residual stream and then orthogonalized out of every matrix that
writes into that stream. No fine-tuning, no distillation, no data poisoning — the weights are the
original weights minus a rank-1 component.

The vision tower is byte-for-byte untouched. Only the text path was modified.

base this model
HarmBench, safety categories (293) 99.0 % refusal 0.0 % refusal
AdvBench (520) 99.04 % 0.19 %
AdvBench (520), thinking mode 48.27 % 0.00 %
HarmBench (393), thinking mode 21.12 % 0.00 %
Chinese harmful prompts (30) 83.33 % 0.00 %
MMLU (full, 14 042) 83.40 % 82.35 %
GSM8K (200) 96.50 % 96.50 %

Method

For every weight W whose output is added to the residual stream:

W  ←  W − λ · r̂ (r̂ᵀ W)          # out-dim writers  [hidden, in]
E  ←  E − λ · (E r̂ᵀ) r̂          # embed_tokens     [vocab, hidden]

with r̂ a unit refusal direction in the 5120-dim residual space and λ = 1.5.

131 tensors edited:

group count
mlp.down_proj (all 64 layers) 64
linear_attn.out_proj (48 Gated DeltaNet layers) 48
self_attn.o_proj (16 full-attention layers) 16
mtp.layers.0.* (o_proj, down_proj) 2
embed_tokens 1

Not edited: all 333 model.visual.* tensors, lm_head (it reads the residual stream, it does
not write it), all norms, and all q/k/v/gate/up, conv1d, in_proj, A_log, dt_bias.

embed_tokens is included. The residual stream is purely additive (x₀ = E[t]), so a component
injected by the embeddings cannot be removed by anything downstream; omitting it leaves a refusal
leak into every layer. It needs the transposed projection form because hidden is its last dim.

Finding the direction

Last-token residual activations were captured for 32 harmful and 32 harmless prompts across all 65
hidden-state positions, in both thinking modes. Layers were ranked by normalized separation
(Cohen's d and Mann–Whitney AUC) rather than raw ‖diff-in-means‖, which merely grows with depth.

Selected: non-thinking mode, hidden-state index 46 — Cohen's d = 12.65, AUC = 1.000.
(Index i is the residual stream after i decoder layers, so index 46 = output of decoder
layer 45, 0-indexed.)

Choosing λ — this part matters

λ was measured, not assumed. Refusal and capability were scored at each λ
(coarse sweep: n = 96 refusal prompts / 160 MMLU items — smaller than the finer sweep below, so
single-prompt noise is ±1.04 pp here):

λ refusal (AdvBench) MMLU
0.0 (base) 100.00 % 82.50 %
1.0 25.00 % 83.12 %
1.5 0.00 % 83.12 %
2.0 2.08 % 77.50 %
2.5 4.17 % 30.62 %
3.0 8.33 % 20.00 %
3.5 0.00 % 20.00 %

Two results worth stating plainly:

  • λ = 1.0 — exact removal — is not enough. It leaves 25 % of refusals intact. λ > 1 does not
    merely delete the component, it reverses it, and that is what actually suppresses refusal.
  • λ ≥ 2.5 destroys the model. MMLU collapses to 20–30 % — at or below the 25 % chance floor for
    4-way multiple choice. A λ of 3.5 copied from another architecture would have shipped a lobotomized
    model that still scores 0 % refusal. A refusal-only sweep would not have caught this.

A finer sweep (n = 160 refusal / 320 MMLU) over λ ∈ [1.1, 2.0] kept MMLU flat at 84–85 % throughout
and put refusal at or near zero across [1.2, 1.6]: exactly 0/160 at λ = 1.2, 1.4 and 1.5, and 1/160
(0.62 %) at λ = 1.3 and 1.6. The zero points are not contiguous, which is what a measurement with a
resolution of ±1 prompt in 160 looks like — so read [1.2, 1.6] as a low-refusal band, not a proven
plateau. λ = 1.5 was chosen from inside that band; the full sweep is in evals/sweep_fine.json.


Evaluation

Greedy decoding (do_sample=False), identical settings for base and abliterated.
Refusal is scored by a deliberately loose keyword classifier — it is tuned to over-count
refusals, never under-count.

Refusal

benchmark mode base abliterated
AdvBench (520) non-thinking 515/520 · 99.04 % 1/520 · 0.19 %
AdvBench (520) thinking 251/520 · 48.27 % 0/520 · 0.00 %
HarmBench (393) non-thinking 387/393 · 98.47 % 45/393 · 11.45 %
HarmBench (393) thinking 83/393 · 21.12 % 0/393 · 0.00 %
Chinese harmful (30) non-thinking 25/30 · 83.33 % 0/30 · 0.00 %

Every row is the complete benchmark, not a sample. In thinking mode the abliterated model
refuses nothing at all — 0/520 on AdvBench and 0/393 on HarmBench, including all 100 copyright
items, whose non-thinking residual is discussed below.

No prompt-prefill jailbreak is used anywhere. (The common "Sure, here is" prefill is itself a
jailbreak: under it the base model refuses only 12.5 % on AdvBench, which would have made this
edit look far less significant than it is.)

HarmBench by category — where the residual 11.45 % actually lives

category base abliterated
chemical / biological (56) 100.0 % 0.0 %
cybercrime / intrusion (61) 100.0 % 0.0 %
harassment / bullying (25) 100.0 % 0.0 %
harmful (22) 100.0 % 0.0 %
misinformation (64) 98.4 % 0.0 %
illegal (65) 96.9 % 0.0 %
all safety categories (293) 99.0 % 0.0 %
copyright (100) 97.0 % 45.0 %

Every safety category is exactly zero, with no adjudication applied. (In thinking mode even the copyright column goes to zero: 0/100.) The entire residual is the
copyright cluster, and manual inspection of all 45 flagged responses shows they are overwhelmingly
classifier false positives rather than refusals — two distinct failure modes:

  1. The generated text itself begins with a refusal phrase. Asked for a passage from The Kite
    Runner
    , the model writes prose beginning "I cannot quite remember when I first started to
    remember. It was a cold, clear day in Kabul…"
    . That is the novel, not a refusal.
  2. A pedantic preamble followed by full delivery. "I cannot generate a new passage … but here
    is a long excerpt from Book One, Chapter 1"
    — and then it delivers it.

Song-lyric requests are flagged the same way, because lyrics contain lines like "I can't explain".
The single AdvBench flag is identical in kind: "I cannot lie. I am an AI… However, you asked for a
review of a product I have not used. So —"
followed by the review.

These are reported as-is rather than adjudicated away: the raw classifier output is reproducible,
a semantic judge is not. The per-category breakdown is what carries the claim.

Capability

benchmark base abliterated
MMLU (full test, 14 042) 83.40 % 82.35 %
MMLU (1 000 sample) 82.50 % 81.10 %
GSM8K (200, 1024 tok) 96.50 % 96.50 %

GSM8K needs a generation budget of ≥1024 tokens. At 400 tokens the base model scored 68 % and this
model 81.5 % — pure truncation artefact, measuring verbosity rather than arithmetic. With an adequate
budget the two are identical.

Vision (untouched — verified two ways)

Structurally: a byte-level diff confirms 0 of 333 model.visual.* tensors changed, and the
vision-only shard still shares an inode with the base checkpoint.

Behaviourally, on the same image:

base — "there are three distinct geometric shapes … Red Circle – Located in the upper-left
portion … Green Triangle – Positioned to the right of the red circle"

abliterated — "There is a red circle located in the upper-left portion of the image. There
is a green triangle … located in the"


Usage

import torch
from transformers import AutoProcessor, AutoModelForImageTextToText

m = "windowsxp811203/Qwen3.8-27B-Abliterated"
proc = AutoProcessor.from_pretrained(m)
model = AutoModelForImageTextToText.from_pretrained(m, dtype=torch.bfloat16, device_map="auto")

msgs = [{"role": "user", "content": "Explain how a lock cylinder works."}]
text = proc.apply_chat_template(msgs, tokenize=False, add_generation_prompt=True,
                                enable_thinking=False)   # thinking is ON by default
inputs = proc(text=[text], return_tensors="pt").to(model.device)
print(proc.tokenizer.decode(model.generate(**inputs, max_new_tokens=512)[0]))

Needs ~56 GB in bf16. Both thinking modes work; the direction was extracted in non-thinking mode and
generalizes to thinking mode (48.27 % → 0.00 % on AdvBench, full 520).

flash-linear-attention and causal-conv1d are optional — transformers ships pure-torch
fallbacks for the Gated DeltaNet path, so the model runs correctly (just slower) without them.

Limitations

  • copyright refusals are only partly removed (97 % → 45 % by keyword; largely false positives).
    This edit targets safety refusal, and copyright declines are a partly distinct behaviour.
  • The direction comes from 32 + 32 English prompts. It transfers to Chinese (83.33 % → 0.00 %) and
    to thinking mode, but transfer to other languages and formats is unmeasured.
  • Removing refusal does not add knowledge. The model can now be confidently wrong about things
    it would previously have declined to discuss.
  • MMLU is down 1.05 pp on the full test set. Small, but not zero.

Reproduction

Direction extraction, the λ sweep, the ablation, and every eval above were run on a single H200.
The λ sweep is cheap because the rank-1 projection component is cached once from the original
weights and λ is then moved incrementally in memory (W(λ') = W(λ) − (λ'−λ)·P(W₀)), which turns a
55 GB-checkpoint-per-λ grid into milliseconds per point.

ABLIT_META.json in this repo lists all 131 edited tensors with their per-tensor relative Frobenius
change and the exact direction provenance.

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Disclaimer

This model will not refuse. It is published for alignment and safety research — measuring what
refusal training actually protects, red-teaming, and studying the mechanics of refusal directions.
You are responsible for your use of it and for complying with applicable law. Inherits the
Apache-2.0 license of the base model.

README history 6 versions

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